http://www.vishvarupa.com/Fair-Is-Fair/Ex-Baba.com/Murders/murders-basava-premanand.html Furthermore, Basava Premanand, being highly scornful on the profit making at SSB's ashram, charges 300% more to foreigners for his book, as opposed to the price he charges to non-foreigners! The BBC Documentary talks about the UNESCO withdrawal from the ISSE conference, yet failed to mention why UNESCO withdrew. Read about the real reason why UNESCO withdrew from the ISSE conference on my page at:
http://www.vishvarupa.com/Fair-Is-Fair/Ex-Baba.com/unesco-withdraws.html One of the most persuasive testimonies in the BBC Documentary is that of Alaya Rahm (also known as Sam Young). However, The BBC Documenatary does not provide us with the following facts regarding Alaya Rahm's (Sam Young's) previous testimonies that directly contradict his testimony on Secret Swami. For example:
The testimonies of Sam Young are listed on three sites: 1) Divine Downfall, by Mick Brown, October 27th, 2000, in the Daily Telegraph, UK; 2) Seduced, Danish TV Documentary aired January 30th, 2002; and 3) Secret Swami, BBC Documentary aired June 17th, 2004.
The testimonies of Sam Young are listed on three sites: 1) Divine Downfall, by Mick Brown, October 27th, 2000, in the Daily Telegraph, UK; 2) Seduced, Danish TV Documentary aired January 30th, 2002; and 3) Secret Swami, BBC Documentary aired June 17th, 2004.
There are some serious contradictions, in these three testimonies, that need to be addressed.
Sam Young’s First Experience: Contradictions:
In Sam Young’s testimony, from Seduced, Sam Young claims that his first personal experience with SSB occurred, when he was 16 years old, when he went to see SSB, alone with some friends in a USA group. His family did not accompany him during this trip. According to Sam Young’s testimony, on Seduced, SSB materialized oil and rubbed it on his testicles and kissed him deeply and it seemed as if SSB was trying to make his penis erect [Seduced: 217 00:29:46:24 00:29:53:22].
This testimony directly contradicts the testimony that Sam Young gave in Secret Swami, in which Sam Young said that his first personal experience with SSB was when his family was with him in 1997 [Secret Swami: 10.16.47 & 10.18.38]. According to Sam Young, on Secret Swami, his family was called for an interview (in 1997) and he was called privately. It was then that SSB materialized oil and rubbed it on his testicles and kissed him deeply [Secret Swami: 10.18.51]. After the interview, his father, Al, asked Sam what happened in the private interview. Sam said he could not tell. Al asked if SSB made oil for him. Sam asked Al how he knew about the oil and Al said that it had happened to him too. Al accepted the experience as some sort of healing ritual [Secret Swami: 10.19.13].
The previous two accounts contradict Sam Young’s testimony, in the Divine Downfall interview, that he had with Mick Brown. According to the Divine Downfall interview, "In 1995, Sam had come to his father. In a private interview, he said, Sai Baba had 'materialised' some oil in his hand, unbuttoned Sam's trousers and rubbed his genitals. Jeff (This is Al. Names change for anonymity. For example Sam Young is Alaya Rahm) told his son he had had a similar experience when he first met Sai Baba at 18. 'I said to Sam, what did you think about it? He said he didn't feel there was anything sexual about it; it was like Sai Baba was doing his job. And I'd kind of had that experience. A doctor gives a boy an exam. I'd taken it as some kind of healing.' Thereafter, Sam said nothing about his experiences". Sam Young makes no mention of SSB kissing him deeply and trying to make his penis erect (as he claimed in Secret Swami and Seduced). As a matter of fact, Sam Young told his father that, "he didn’t feel there was anything sexual about it; it was like Sai Baba was doing his job".
Sam Young’s Oiling. When did it happen and who was told: Contradictions:
In the Divine Downfall interview, Sam Young received an oiling from SSB, in 1995, in a trip he took with a family friend (Family did not go with Sam on this trip). After receiving this oiling, Sam Young told his father about it when he returned to the USA (in 1995).
In Seduced, Sam Young received an oiling from SSB, when he was 16 years old, in a trip he took with friends in a USA group (Family did not go with Sam on this trip). After receiving this oiling, Sam Young told no one, as directed by SSB. Sam Young went back to see SSB, with his family, in 1997. The family was called for an interview. Sam Young was called for a private interview but he does "not remember exactly what happened", but claims that "physical contact" occurred. [Seduced: 217 00:29:46:24 00:29:53:22].
In Secret Swami, Sam Young received an oiling from SSB, in 1997, in a trip he took with his family [Secret Swami: 10.16.47]. In this family interview (in 1997), Sam Young received a private interview and had an oiling. SSB kissed him heavily on the mouth. SSB told him to tell no one. After the interview, his father, Al, asked Sam what happened in the private interview. Sam said he could not tell. Al asked if SSB made oil for him. Sam asked Al how he knew about the oil and Al said that it had happened to him too. Al accepted the experience as some sort of healing ritual [Secret Swami: 10.19.13]. This directly contradicts Sam Young’s Seduced account in which he says, of his 1997 family interview, "I don’t remember exactly what happened that first day, but I know that there was physical contact in the personal interview room" [Seduced: 217 00:29:46:24 00:29:53:22].
Other Contradictions:
In Sam Young’s testimony on Divine Downfall, we have a revelation that Sam Young had received about $10,000 in cash and gifts from SSB. On Secret Swami, Al Rahm said, "I think he gave him several thousands dollars". Al Rahm "thinks" SSB gave Sam "several thousand dollars"? Why didn't he ask him? Where did this figure of $10,000 come from? Especially in light that the Rahm family claims that the gold watches and diamond rings, that they received from SSB, were cheap and not worth very much money. There is no mention of Sam receiving any amount of money on Seduced.
Another contradiction occurs between Sam Young’s testimony in Divine Downfall and Seduced. In Sam Young’s testimony, on Seduced, Sam Young claims that he had conversations with "other people" who had similar experiences. Sam said he could talk more openly with them than he could with his dad [Seduced: 226 00:36:34:10 00:36:38:15]. However, in Divine Downfall, the "other people" are two American, teenage students at the Puttparthi College. In Divine Downfall, Sam Young said that "we didn’t talk about it too much because of the idea that he (SSB) was omniscient, that he’d know what we were talking about and what was in our heads". In Seduced, Sam Young talks to other people (notice he does not specify the important information that they were American, Sai Students) and he talks to them openly [Seduced: 226 00:36:34:10 00:36:38:15]. Yet in the second account, on Divine Downfall, they "didn’t talk about it too much". So, did Sam talk "openly" about it or "not too much"?
The last contradiction is regarding the accounts given in Divine Downfall and Secret Swami about how Sam Young divulged everything that was happening to his parents. In Divine Downfall, it states, "When Sai Baba attempted to get him to perform oral sex, Sam walked out for the last time, although it would be some months before he summoned the nerve to tell his parents". This same story is repeated in Seduced in which it said that Sam Young told his father [Seduced: 227 00:38:26:03 00:38:29:06]. However, in Secret Swami, Sam did not tell his parents. His parents confronted him and that was when he divulged the story. In Secret Swami, it says, "Al Rahm: We were concerned about Alaya’s behaviour and the way he was acting and so we decided we were going to confront him. Well, to my surprise when Alaya said ok and he started to tell the story, it was so much more than I knew anything about" [Secret Swami: 10.35.20].
Consequently, the BBC Documentary, Secret Swami, that is the Holy Grail for those who are anti-SSB, has been shown to be riddled with inconsistencies, contradictions and has been poorly researched.
Will Tanya Datta or David Savill make the necessary inquiries to rectify these contradictions and supply the general public with the crucial information they need to better assess this documentary? No one knows. Contact David Savill at:
david.savill@bbc.co.uk and make your voice heard. In Seduced, the Denmark Documentary, another key witness, Jed Geyerhahn, provides two completely different testimonies as to what happened to him:
Did Jed Geyerhahn lie? Jed Geyerhahn’s testimony is published on two different pages on ExBaba.com. One under "Witnesses" and the other under "Articles" in the Seduced article.
On Jed Geyerhahn's Witness Account, Jed says, "This brings me to my very questionable experiences with Sai Baba. On my second trip to Sai Baba I had four interviews. Each time I saw Baba, his hand would gradually make more prominant connections to my groin. The first interview was a slight swipe, the second a definite touch and the third time he grabbed me and with a very stern face looked me directly in the eye and said "you are very weak!" Needless to say, he scared and embarassed me. I was guilt ridden to have sexual passion, though I was a healthy 16 year old boy, a testosterone machine. I was not going to talk to anyone about the experience. In the final interview he asked me to take my pants down. I was totally confused, so he took them down for me. He then made vibhutti and rubbed it on my genitals. On my third trip, he did the same thing, but rubbed oil on my genitals. Fortunately, I was never taken advantage of any worse, but I was humiliated when I realised his true intentions, and I felt I had really lost an innocence that I would have cherished keeping."
On Jed Geyerhahn's Seduced Account, Jed says, "In 1989 when I was 15 years old I went to India for three weeks. And on that trip I had four interviews. And in the third interview he actually asked me to untie my pants. And he forcibly pulled my pants down and with his bare hand grabbed my groin and rubbed some oil on the side of my scrotum. And I went again on the following year, and on that trip when I was 16 years old, SB called me again for a private interview. At that point I was even actually more uncomfortable because it seemed like this had already taken place, there is no reason why it needed to take place again. But he asked me to take my pants down. I did and he went on and produced an oily substance and rubbed it on the side of my scrotum."
Jed Geyerhahn’s Witnesses Account states that: 1) On his second trip to SSB, he got four interviews when he was 16 years old; 2) First Interview, Baba swiped his midsection; Second Interview, a definite touch; Third Interview, a forcible grab and in the Fourth Interview, SSB took down his pants and rubbed vibuthi on his genitals; 3) On his third trip, SSB rubbed oil on his genitals.
Now, if we look at Jed Geyerhahn’s Seduced Account, we have a different story. 1) On his first trip to SSB, he got four interviews when he was 15 years old; 2) First Interview, no account; Second Interview, no account, Third Interview, he forcible pulled down his pants and rubbed oil on the side of his scrotum and there are no comments about the Fourth Interview. 2) On his second trip, when he was 16 years old, SSB rubbed oil on the side of his scrotum.
Consequently, Jed Geyerhahn completely contradicts himself in his Witness and Seduced testimonies. On Jed Geyerhahn’s Witness account, he says he had four interviews on his second trip to SSB when he was 16. On his Seduced account, he says he had four interviews on his first trip to SSB when he was 15. On Jed Geyerhahn’s Witness account, in his fourth interview, SSB rubbed vibuthi on his genitals. However, on Jed Geyerhahn’s Seduced account, in his third interview, SSB rubbed oil on his genitals. In this same account, on Seduced, Jed Geyerhahn said that it was on his second trip, not his third, when he was 16 years old, when SSB rubbed oil on the side of his scrotum. How can we believe Jed Geyerhahn when his testimonies completely contradict each other?
Witness Info:
http://www.vishvarupa.com/Fair-Is-Fair/Ex-Baba.com/Witnesses/exbaba-witnesses.html The Findings Info:
http://www.vishvarupa.com/Fair-Is-Fair/Ex-Baba.com/Findings/exbaba-findings.html Online Petition Info:
http://www.vishvarupa.com/Fair-Is-Fair/ 1993 Murders Info:
http://www.vishvarupa.com/Fair-Is-Fair/Ex-Baba.com/Murders/exbaba-murders.html UNESCO Withdrawal:
http://www.vishvarupa.com/Fair-Is-Fair/Ex-Baba.com/unesco-withdraws.html